With so much going on, we go long this week: We assess the summer-movie season that ended with Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes; check in with a weary Todd VanDerWerff after the Television Critics Association events in LA; watch the contested throne between Jay-Z and Kanye; talk about the freshmen stars of this year's Lollapalooza; check in with reader voicemail; and talk extracurricular activities.

Quick programming note: Starting next week, Reasonable Discussions will post on Wednesday.

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:00 ‚Äď Intro
:38 ‚Äď Scott Tobias and Keith Phipps discuss the summer movie season that was
10:35 ‚Äď Todd VanDerWerff on the TCAs
18:52 ‚Äď Nathan Rabin and Kyle Ryan discuss Jay-Z and Kanye West‚Äôs Watch The Throne, the sometimes contentious relationship between the two, and debate West‚Äôs skills as a rapper
29:48 ‚Äď Genevieve Koski, Marcus Gilmer, and Kyle Ryan talk about the best sets by Lollapalooza‚Äôs freshmen bands
42:38 ‚Äď Reader voicemail: MTV from a teen perspective
44:13 ‚Äď Extracurricular activities with Erik Adams and Marcus Gilmer

Direct your comments to discussions@avclub.com, or leave us a voicemail at 314-AVCLUB0.

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