We’ve never had a better setting for an interview than Hawaii’s Kekaha Kai State Park, which sits just up the coast from Kona. In the video above, Onion Inc. Creative Director Leo Garcia chats up Boulevards’ Jamil Rashad about his life, interests, and career while perched on some volcanic rock and enjoying a nice cold Kona Brewing Co. brew as the waves roll in. Seriously—our jobs are the worst.

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